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On the slope below Stirling Castle and out through King's Park, many of the Victorian houses are built into the hill with a cellar or a lower ground floor, and where there is one, it is often where the boiler went. A boiler below ground is no trouble while it runs. Replacing it is another matter, because a condensing boiler makes water that has to drain away, and in a cellar the drain is usually above it. So boiler installations in these houses start with one decision: does the new boiler stay down there or come up a floor?
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In short: Boiler installation in Stirling FK8 by Gas Safe engineers. Replacing a boiler that lives in a cellar, where the drain and the flue decide it.
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Stirling's older stone houses step down the hill under the castle, and a cellar or lower ground floor shapes where a new boiler can go in a good number of them.
Stirling's housing runs from the Old Town closes and tenements under the castle, through the Victorian and Edwardian villas of King's Park and the terraces at Riverside, to the estates at St Ninians, Raploch, Cornton and Braehead, with newer private housing out at Bannockburn and Cambusbarron. The ground falls away steeply from the castle rock, and older houses built on that slope often have a floor below street level at the front.
In the coal years a cellar was the natural place for the heating. The boiler sat beside the coal store, fed and emptied out of sight, with its flue rising through the house. When gas arrived, the new boiler often went where the old plant had been, because the pipes and the flue were already there and a floor-standing appliance was easier to hide below stairs than in a kitchen. Some of those have since been swapped for wall-hung boilers in the same spot, and some are still the original gas boiler.
A condensing boiler asks three things of the room it sits in that an older boiler never did. Its condensate has to drain away, its flue has to end outside at a safe spot, and its electronics need to stay dry. A cellar can meet all three, and plenty do. Where one of them is awkward, bringing the boiler up a floor usually costs less over the life of the boiler than working round the problem every year.
A cellar boiler that packs in before you are ready to replace it is a repair call first. Phone 07988 591331 and we will tell you whether keeping it going for a few months makes sense.
Cellar or upstairs, boilers for Stirling, St Ninians, Bannockburn and Cambusbarron come from the makes we are manufacturer certified to install.
In a cellar, where the condensate goes is settled before the boiler is chosen.
Moving the flow and return pipes up a floor if the boiler moves, and cleaning an old system before it is connected.
Condensate runs to a drain by gravity when there is one below the boiler. In a cellar there rarely is, so the water has to be pumped up to a waste pipe or a gully at ground level. A condensate pump does that job well, but it is one more part that needs power, an occasional clean and a route out of the building.
A flue from a cellar often comes out into the sunken area at the front or back of the house, below the level of the pavement. Terminals there have set distances to keep from the ground, windows and doors, and in a narrow area the plume can hang about instead of clearing. Sometimes the flue has to rise up the wall before it ends.
A boiler's circuit board and a condensate pump both dislike damp, and neither survives standing water. A cellar that is dry all year is fine. One that takes in water after heavy rain, even an inch of it, is a reason to raise the boiler well clear of the floor or move it upstairs, and the survey is the time to say so.
Old floor-standing boilers are heavy, often with cast iron sections, and cellar stairs tend to be steep and narrow with a low ceiling. The old unit sometimes has to be taken apart where it stands, and the new one carried down in its box. That is planned at the survey so nobody finds out on the morning of the job.
Cellar installations in Stirling are surveyed by Mo, who is Gas Safe registered, and he looks at three things before he talks about boilers at all. Where the nearest drain is and whether it sits above or below the cellar floor. Where a flue could end and what windows and doors are near that spot. And whether the walls and floor show any sign of water getting in. If any of those rules the cellar out, he will say so before you choose a boiler, not after.
Keeping the boiler in the cellar makes sense when the cellar stays dry, there is a sensible place for the flue to end, and the existing heating and hot water pipes all start from down there. The new boiler then connects to what is already in place, the noise stays below stairs, and no cupboard upstairs is given up. The cost is a condensate pump and the looking after that comes with it. Bringing the boiler up a floor makes sense when any of those three is shaky. The condensate can then fall to the kitchen waste, the flue goes out through an ordinary wall, and servicing no longer involves a torch and a steep stair. The cost is a new gas run and moving the heating pipes up to meet it. In a cellar that has ever had water across the whole floor, upstairs wins every time.
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